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started 9/1/2001; 10:05:06 AM - last post 9/2/2001; 12:21:09 AM
Doc Searls - Saturday, September 1, 2001  blueArrow
9/1/2001; 2:05:06 PM (reads: 3614, responses: 3)
So many emails, so little time 
 Spent all of yesterday stuffing the remains of the apartment into the the old Subaru wagon. Ever notice that moving approaches closure asymptotically? You're never quite done. I got this feeling yesterday when I stood in the apartment looking at the high ratio of remaining stuff to packing boxes. In the kitchen there were a pile of computer speakers, cable modems and connecting wires, next to an old toaster and some Cuisinart parts, next to a pile of magazines with little tags on their pages, next to a half-filled box of cookware. Across the room, a pile of clothes. We were "almost done," and that was just the kitchen. The bathroom cabinets, filled with crap we might use in the event of a medical or a plumbing emergency, were still full. I ended up just stuffing everything into the car through about 40 trips up and down the stairs.
 And now I'm hiding in our little observatory (don't know what else to call a 7x7 octagonal room with a door to the roof that constitutes our entire "upstairs") apologizing to ya'll for not having the time (yet) to reply to all your emails. Quite a lot today.
 Seems there's suddenly a lot of concern about education and whether or not it's a conversation in the same manner as a market. I say no. Shopping is not compulsory. There are no truant officers making sure shoppers go to main street or the mall every day. Anyway, I said more about this stuff a few months ago here. And I'll say more tomorrow. I hope. Right now I have to go move the office.
 

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Jim Flanagan - Re: Saturday, September 1, 2001  blueArrow
9/1/2001; 2:45:59 PM (reads: 539, responses: 0)
Maybe education should be more of a conversation, rather than a one-way street that hasn't been re-paved for the last 500 years. Young people are capable of detecting patterns which have formed since older people have crusted over and can't see them any more. But older people have a larger bag of tricks for solving problems and synthesizing.

Education should be a cooperative effort, where young and old are using their complementary abilities to acheive the same goal: Everyone involved learns something.

I also think that separating young people into groups by age, then sitting them on the other side of a wide chazm from a smaller group of older people is too bizarre for words, and it fosters the innate ability in kids to be cruel because it's oppressive.

I think that I sometimes irritate people because I listen to what their children have to say, instead of telling them to shut up, or trying to "yeah, yeah" them into oblivion. It's a way to see through the crust.

This cartoon (Which I got turned onto by geegaw.com) captures education completely.

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Dave Winer - Re: Saturday, September 1, 2001  blueArrow
9/1/2001; 3:07:38 PM (reads: 488, responses: 1)
Doc, I was thinking of you when I wrote this..

http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2001/09/01#openSourceIn2001

Dave

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Doc Searls - Re: Saturday, September 1, 2001  blueArrow
9/2/2001; 4:21:09 AM (reads: 646, responses: 0)
Thanks!

Wish I had more time to respond, but I'm still in the middle of moving. One observation about the open source circle: there may still be money there, but what came from the dot-com investors is just residual & melting away.

Okay, a few observations (sitting next to my daughter with the laptop on my lap while she scans through 6999 satellite channels...):

1) Not sure the bigcos don't also overlap with the indies, or SOAP wouldn't have happened, no?

2) The press wants to retire Linux Torvalds from the David role and find somebody new to cast as the natural opponent to Gates' Goliath. There's Steve Case, but that's Goliath vs. Goliath. I dunno. In any case, I feel both Linux and Open Source fading as revolutionary characters in the press' historical melodrama. This is probably a good thing.

Gotta go...

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