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Author:   Doc Searls  
Posted: 6/1/2001; 1:49:39 PM
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Proof we may be running out of irony Permanent link to 'Proof we may be running out of irony' in archives.
 A reverend ruminates on the irreverent
 
If you're around as long as God, the believers start to pile up Permanent link to 'If you're around as long as God, the believers start to pile up' in archives.
 Lucid Confusion points to more about Wiki at Builder.com. Also that Zeldman's been at this stuff since forever. Sez Lucid:
 Your relationship with Zeldman is the foundation of your life — on earth and for eternity. It's the most important relationship you'll ever enjoy. We'd like to help you build your relationship with Zeldman so you can reap the life-changing benefits only He can provide: unconditional love; eternal life; financial and emotional strength; health; and solutions to every problem or challenge you'll ever face.
 
Where would Democracy be if our founding loudmouth hadn't been a certifiable ADHD case? Permanent link to 'Where would Democracy be if our founding loudmouth hadn't been a certifiable ADHD case?' in archives.
 And tell me if Poor Richard's Almanac wasn't the first blog. One example:
 What an admirable Invention is Writing, by which a Man may communicate his Mind without opening his Mouth, and at 1000 Leagues Distance, and even to future Ages, only by the Help of 22 Letters, which may be joined 5852616738497664000 Ways, and will express all Things in a very narrow Compass. 'Tis a Pity this excellent Art has not preserved the Name and Memory of its Inventor.
 
Kinda like life here in Camp Penguin Permanent link to 'Kinda like life here in Camp Penguin' in archives.
 Check out today's Doonesbury.
 Heh Dept.: guess what OS & SW are serving up Doonesbury's stuff?
 Thanks to Craig for the link, btw.
 
I'll let you know what I think once I've built it Permanent link to 'I'll let you know what I think once I've built it' in archives.
 Brent Ashley open sources his opinions.
 Meanwhile Brent Simmons shares a few of his own. Good points, all.
 
If tree fell in the world and Google didn't crawl it, did it ever happen? Permanent link to 'If tree fell in the world and Google didn't crawl it, did it ever happen?' in archives.
 Tom points to this before observing this:
 If there is anything unique (and therefore historical) about this networked moment of ours, it's the odd capacity it has to forget the entire category that used to be called history.
 
Choose one: 1) personalized messages, or 2) humanized industries Permanent link to 'Choose one: 1) personalized messages, or 2) humanized industries' in archives.
 Eric Norlin once again has us thinking the rethinkable. A sample:
 In certain corners of the web, the phenomenon of amateur journalism is reasserting itself in an interesting new way. The reassertion is through weblogs - an online journal that tends to be kept by an individual on a regular basis. The interesting new way is in the emergent structure that is forming bottom up, and the accompanying value of interaction that mass media is missing.
 
See? They were right all along. Permanent link to 'See? They were right all along.' in archives.
 Says here (in a review of Economic Sentiments: Adam Smith, Condorcet and the Enlightenment, by Emma Rothschild — a book I now have to buy) that these Enlightenment economists, writing at the dawn of the Industrial Age, thought markets were conversations too. The quote is too long to cut, so here it is (the bold emphasis is mine):
 Though she finds affinities between the late 18th century and the present, Rothschild's chief concern is to revise and refine our image of the past so we can command a view of the period as it was seen by those who lived in it. Taking as her chief subjects Adam Smith and the Marquis du Condorcet, Rothschild reconstructs the conceptions of economic life that were developed during that unquietly reflective time. The resulting views are as arrestingly different from our own as they are in some ways strikingly similar. The two thinkers came from different ends of the Enlightenment, conservative and utopian, Smith focusing on the passions that are mobilized in market exchange, Condorcet — at least in some of his writings — on the interactions of rational calculators. Yet both saw economic life as a highly discursive set of activities, with behavior in the marketplace resembling the shifts and turns of conversation more than any mechanical process of adjustment to changing prices. Neither could have recognized the idea that markets tend toward equilibrium, which has been the central source of controversy in 20th-century economic theory.
 Compare that to this excerpt from the Cluetrain book. And thank Dr. Weinberger, the other author of that excerpt, for pointing out the piece.
 By the way, I notice that the term "conversation" does not appear anywhere in Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations. "Market," however, does. In fact, it is in Smith's prose that we find seminal abstraction of markets not as real places but as conceptual zones where economic forces seek outcomes in price, movement of goods and the rest of it.
 Condorcet is new to me, but I find myself drawn to anybody who can be described thusly:
 His uncompromising directness of manner and inability to suffer illogical windbags in silence made him many enemies and few friends. His weak voice, lack of oratorical powers, and tendency to bore the Convention by the excessive height of his arguments was one of the tragedies of the Revolution.
 And what tragedies of this revolution await us, hmm?
 
And the first TDCRC Icberg Award Nominee for June 2001 is... Permanent link to 'And the first TDCRC Icberg Award Nominee for June 2001 is...' in archives.
 To find out, click here for the most clueful Flash movie ever made, Thank Craig Jensen for pointing to it. And then thank the hypervigilant Eric Norlin for later pointing out that his TDCRC co-founder had already made old hat of the matter exactly one month ago. Like I'm keeping a database of all this shit. Jeeez.


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