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started 10/10/2005; 8:32:55 AM - last post 10/12/2005; 11:46:29 PM
Doc Searls - Monday, October 10, 2005  blueArrow
10/10/2005; 12:32:55 PM (reads: 4947, responses: 4)
Elseposts 
 At IT Garage: Is there a shortage of big open source thinkers?
 Also, the SuitWatch archives are back up. My latest: The New Zeitgeist: Meetings = Closed, Forums = Open. The next will be out Thursday.
 Some of you noticed that we're missing much of April, May and June in the archives. This is a public reminder to myself to get them up there.
 
Retrospections 
 Carnival ship elevatorsThe upstream connection here at the hotel (in Tampa, near the airport) is nice and fast, so I was able to upload several hundred pictures from the just completed Geek Cruise to this photoset at Flickr. They're not in order, and I don't have time to rearrange them, but meanwhile they do indulge my astonishment at the beyond-Vegas decor of the otherwise terrific Carnival Miracle cruise ship. Which I do highly recommend, by the way, if you're into cruises.
 I'll file my report(s) about the cruise in Linux Journal, hopefully later this week or early next.
 
Happy Birthday 
 To The Kid, who turns 9 today. My original travel plans had me coming home this afternoon, but some important business came up in New York, so I'll be heading there for today and tomorrow, and back ASAP Wednesday. A birthday party is planned for later this week. Meanwhile, the ghost of Harry Chapin sings in my mind.
 Nearly all of my few podcasts have been with the kid. We'll have a good time doing another (and many more), I promise, after I get home.

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http://lurkerfan.livejournal.com/ - Re: Monday, October 10, 2005  blueArrow
10/10/2005; 8:58:47 PM (reads: 709, responses: 2)
Never having taken a cruise, I viewed your Geek Cruise photos to see the beyond-Las Vegas decor. With recent photos of conditions after Katrina, particularly in the Superdome, Convention Center and small towns in Mississippi seared in my brain, I found many of the images of decor and food to be excessive to the point of obscenity. The antics of Roman emperors come to mind. Juxtaposing some of the more bizarre cruise photos with the Katrina photos would make a powerful wordless comment on American social and economic justice.

How much of the expense of the trip was written off as a business cost? Just wondering... Also, I am appalled at the waste inherent in our federal government leasing cruise ships at twice the going room rate to use for Katrina victims, as was reported in the press. How wasteful is that?

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Doc Searls - Re: Monday, October 10, 2005  blueArrow
10/11/2005; 9:11:47 AM (reads: 820, responses: 1)
This ship has gaudy and strange decor; but I wouldn't describe it as expensive. Many truly expensive and indulgent settings could be justaposed to Katrina's ruins with greater effect.

I suppose you might have the same problem -- or worse -- with any theme hotel on the Strip in Las Vegas, where many statues and fixtures are real marble and glass, and not molded plastic (which was abundant on the boat).

The trip was, in fact, business for me. Geek Cruises are conferences on boats that perform the same kinds of functions as hotels on land. In fact, they very much *are* hotels. Think of them as hotels with hulls.

My job there was to represent Linux Journal (a sponsor of the event), and to give the closing keynote. Was it a junket? Sure. It was also work. I only did two shore excursions, and spent two of the other shore stops doing interviews on the boat or research on the Net at Internet cafes. I attended two comedy shows (both good), but otherwise avoided the entertainment, including the casino and the ships many bars.

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http://lurkerfan.livejournal.com/ - Re: Monday, October 10, 2005  blueArrow
10/11/2005; 8:34:39 PM (reads: 895, responses: 0)
First, thanks for responding to my comment.

And second, you are no doubt right that "Many truly expensive and indulgent settings could be justaposed to Katrina's ruins with greater effect." The plastic ticky-tacky -- which I would find offensive on aesthetic grounds -- probably does not come across as strongly in the photos as it does in life. Also right that I find Las Vegas unappealing if not downright morally reprehensible. While the strip is visually spectacular, I never see it without feeling that all that water in the desert and electrical power could be put to much better use.

And third, I am speaking from a bedrock of anger at an economic system and particularly the current Republican administration that is heavily rigged in favor of corporations and the wealthy while ignoring the increasingly desperate plight of low-level workers and the most vulnerable members of society. The costs of tax breaks for luxurious junkets for corporate managers are ultimately passed on to consumers and result in a proportionally heavier tax burden on middle and lower income workers, especially since Bush's tax cuts. (Even though you and others did some productive work, the choice of a cruise ship as a venue argues against any claim that it was primarily a work conference.) I am deeply disturbed by trends in our economy that have allowed CEOs' incomes to take quantum leaps upward while ever-increasing numbers of workers at the lower levels have sunk deeper into poverty, working two or more temporary or part-time jobs without health insurance, retirement plans or other benefits.

You and I probably are too far apart on economic and political issues to find common ground, but I appreciate the opportunity to debate someone whom I respect so highly as a human being.

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Denise Howell - Re: Monday, October 10, 2005  blueArrow
10/13/2005; 3:46:29 AM (reads: 671, responses: 0)
LOVE that you podcast with The Kid, love the whole dynamic, love the thought of the two of you spending that time together, just hangin' at home, sharing your interests and tastes (Birdland?? so not your average soon-to-be nine-year-old). Harry's ghost has a great many other minds he should be paying attention to.

Kisses, Denise

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