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started 5/3/2005; 2:44:35 PM - last post 5/5/2005; 3:11:29 AM
Doc Searls - Tuesday, May 3, 2005  blueArrow
5/3/2005; 6:44:35 PM (reads: 5551, responses: 4)
Be a dead head. Don't give it. 
 Hugh doesn't do necrophilia for free.
 
Overhead 
 In Docworld Global Mapping Project, Gary turner says I'm quietly engaged in a one man global mapping project to rival the big corps and government agencies.
 Close. If you check here, here or here... or ... shoot, I can't find it... but somewhere back there a couple months ago I suggested that we (airplane out-the-window shooters) put together a book of shots from airplane windows.
 I didn't think it made practical sense at the time. Now, thanks to Flickr, and its sets/tags/groups feature, I do.
 Here are just a few of the many sets of aerial photos I've already posted, because it's so damn easy.
 
The bucks start here 
 Andrew Rasiej is running for Public Advocate in New Yawk City. Here's his blog. Here's the New York Magazine story. Here's Micah Sifry's report at Personal Democracy Forum, which Andrew founded.
 And here's his call for public Wi-Fi in the city.
 Andrew's a good guy, with good ideas. You can join the campaign here. Perhaps needless to say, he needs money. You can donate here.
 
Taking the fork 
 I agree with what Dave says here about what Om says here about what The Times says here about what Adam's doing here, among other things.
 Sez Om:
 what is being offered is "broadcasting" not podcasting.
 Sez Dave:
 Now that the air has cleared, and we can see that there are two distinct approaches, one which is a revisit of an old medium (radio), and the other a continuation of the new (podcasting)
 I'd like to add a couple things.
 First, Adam is a radio guy. He was a radio guy before he was a TV guy, a celeb guy, a pilot guy, a pod guy or any of the many other kinds of guys he (and we all) are. I know what it's like to be a radio guy, because I'm one too.
 What I do here on the blog is a kind of radio. At some level, it's a way to sublimate my lifelong interest in doing radio. When I get around to podcasting (which I will, eventually), I'll be a radio guy, talkin' at ya. Won't be able to help it.
 We don't need no steenkin' transmitters! Adam's Daily Source Code intro still says. But, truth be told, we radio guys do need transmitters. We're not being Real Radio Guys unless we've got one.
 That's why it makes complete sense for Adam to go on Sirius. Even if the show can't be broadcast (or podcast) on the Net, thanks to the nasty-ass restrictions the RIAA led the Copyright Office to impose on the infant Internet broadcasting industry a few years back.
 Second, what Adam will be doing at Sirius, and what Howard Stern will be doing as well, is restoring radio to what it used to be, and should have been, all along. But it's not podcasting. It's new life for an old sphere.
 Third, what podcasting is doing is Something New and very different. I like Dave's expression of a "corner turn." Craig Burton used to use the term "knife-edge rollover" for a similar kind of change. Podcasting is a whole new system, a whole new class of activity. It may be like radio, but we make a mistake if we understand it in terms of radio.
 Think of it instead as a new life form that's native to the Net. That some of it can be leveraged, or harvested, for the radiosphere, fine. But understand that the pioneers here are blazing new trails, opening new frontiers. Not restoring old burned-out cities.

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Dave - Re: Tuesday, May 3, 2005  blueArrow
5/3/2005; 10:44:42 PM (reads: 1175, responses: 1)
Doc - I see Adam Curry's efforts with Sirius as consistent with his efforts to date to build a new venue for audio talent. The show will showcase PODcasts (some PODshow) but most likely ANY podshows that feature unique and interesting 'voices'. I think the early critical feedback is way too early... It hasn't even premiered yet and it's being judged on a single press release. How would you feel about a potential project of yours that was treated in this way? Like "Make" or "DIYGarage" for example... stay tuned or at least read about someone's views after it airs since the audience with Sirius is pretty small at this time. Both PODcasting as a commericial venture and Satellite Radio have yet to hit anything near a break even point.

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Paul Benjamin - Re: Tuesday, May 3, 2005  blueArrow
5/4/2005; 12:30:32 AM (reads: 721, responses: 1)
I don't have a problem with Adam getting back into radio. That Ron Bloom has the record company/media language down, I expected to see a marketing slime to follow him wherever he goes.

What pissed me off was Bloom talk of his podcast directory in his industry. He was saying that things are moving too slow, for God's sake podcasting is nine months old. I thought that the directory was to be free, to be used by all, as a community effort. Now he is calling it his and planning on buying off the editors of the directory. It smells like what Gracenote did with CDDB.

I don't want the directory effort getting sucked into any business failure or success and becoming a part of an old media company with a charge on it like Gracenote has done with CDDB. I hope that they make clear what is the licence of the podcast directory is, soon.

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Doc Searls - Re: Tuesday, May 3, 2005  blueArrow
5/4/2005; 12:56:23 PM (reads: 1417, responses: 0)
I must not have made myself clear in Taking the Fork.

I'm not being critical. I expect Adam to do a great job as both a broadcaster and a podcaster. As I said, he started as a radio guy, as did I. Any radio guy who listens to Adam's Daily Source Code isn't just listening to a primo podcaster, but to an experienced first-rank radio talent. Saying that Adam comes from a radio background doesn't mean he'll do a lousy job on Sirius. On the contrary, it raises the chances that he'll do a terrific job.

As I said, I expect both Adam and Howard Stern to show what radio used to be at its best, and can be again. At my most optimistic, I expect them to bring a new Golden Age to radio. I also look forward to seeing how he and Sirius work their way through the hideous regulatory roadblocks that the RIAA, Congress and the Copyright Office put in the path of "webcasting" -- the sourge they feared when they lobbied the DMCA through Congress and then CARPed into the Webcasting Rates published in 2001.

There is also nothing wrong in saying there are huge differences in kind between broadcasting and podcasting. Those differences are technical and legal, to name just the two big ones. Bridging podcasting and broadcasting won't be easy. Adam is the pioneer here. I'm looking foward to seeing how he "takes the fork" when there's trailblazing work to be done in the wilderness where both paths point.

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Doc Searls - Re: Tuesday, May 3, 2005  blueArrow
5/5/2005; 7:11:29 AM (reads: 799, responses: 0)
I had the same feelings while listening to Ron. But I also found myself cutting him (and Adam) plenty of slack.

They're not going to succeed if they screw over the contributors to the directory. And they know that. Ron did go out of his way to give his props to the open source work that's already been done, and to say he wants to attract more, and to participate in the open source side (which is already huge) of the podcast community.

That said, you and other directory contributors need to make constructive suggestions to Adam and Ron, and to the rest of us, about how you want to see the directory evolve. Don't just wait for them to declare a license. Say what you think it should be, and why.

My own feeling is that it should become something like a Wikipedia. Adam can play the Jimbo Wales role, and have no less control than he does now.

Or so it seems to me at 0008:30 on a Thursday.

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