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started 9/17/2004; 1:53:41 AM - last post 9/17/2004; 6:01:28 PM
Doc Searls - Friday, September 17, 2004  blueArrow
9/17/2004; 5:53:41 AM (reads: 4233, responses: 2)
Get outa here 
 DIYDID and DIO are my two latest posts at IT Garage. They were occassioned by the latest from Andre, Kaliya and Phil. The DIYDID piece is a forum, rather than a blog post, so participation is invited.
 Also elsewhere: Beyond Open, my latest SuitWatch for Linux Journal.
 
So give him money 
 Russell Beattie is on the beach and already making plans, with help from Tim, Mark, Joel and others.
 Russell is my primary source of wisdom and what's-coolness about all things mobile. He has terrific energy, original ideas and other fine qualities. I expect he'll go far.
 
Watching the parade 
 On the Rather Matter, I'll defer to Ken Layne:
 What I find weird is just how quick the "Big Media" caved to the Free Republic and Bush Bloggers' assault, even though last I heard there has been no earthshaking evidence to support any theory about these Bush Memos.
 What I mean is, we're a long way off from the kind of clear "Yes These Are Forgeries" thing we got with, say, the faked Hitler Diaries. As I wrote the other day, when you're dealing with dead people and copies distributed online, it is unlikely you'll ever get a solid answer as far as document forensics. Ultimately, how people react to the Memo Story -- while ignoring the undisputed and independently proven story reinforced by those memos -- is the most telling thing about this mini-scandal.
 Should CBS News decide the memos aren't real and then reveal its source, there could be a Der Stern-style mea culpa. Then the story will switch to who provided these documents, and why. I am truly curious about the source of these documents, whether they're real or forged. And if they're forged, I'm even more curious. My hunch is that it was a set-up, and a very successful one. But I don't know a damned thing about it, really, and have spent a total of about 23 minutes thinking about the whole thing.
 I'm still wondering if any of us in the Greater Journosphere actually know enough to justify a final opinion about the facts of the matter. Or matters.
 Meanwhile, amidst news that hasn't crawled out of the mud, Iraq only looks worse. So does Sudan.
 
Groovy 
 The latest Gillmor Gang features Groove (and before that, Notes) founder Ray Ozzie, who needs to get back to blogging (last entry was in March). But that's a quibble. Listening to Ray for most of that hour was fascinating.

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rev_matt - Re: Friday, September 17, 2004  blueArrow
9/17/2004; 12:58:23 PM (reads: 573, responses: 0)
What I find most interesting is that everyone is so worked up over "are these the real documents" and they are ignoring what Killian's family and secretary say, which is that the documents are probably fake, but the content is accurate.

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Christopher Coulter - Re: Friday, September 17, 2004  blueArrow
9/17/2004; 10:01:28 PM (reads: 674, responses: 0)
Hahaha, this is where I fall back laughing. All over the mainstream media -- hardly partisan at that, so you can’t play those cards -- decrying CBS here, forgery been long established. Some of the noteables include: NYT, ABC, NBC, CNN, Wash. Post, Chicago Trib, WSJ, Scotsman, BBC, with all document experts backing off from supporting CBS, with all the key players, telling a very different story than the picture CBS has tried to paint. And then you refer all matters to someone who doesn’t “know a damned thing about it” and only spent “23 minutes” researching it.

Plainly obvious that blogs had some impact and had serious subject matter experts on the case, even the major media is having to admit it. Finally, blogs get their real due, and all the usual blogger suspects are left defending the indefensible or off in la-la-dreamy-land thinking it is a grand Karl Rove conspiracy. Egads. Moment in the sun, and a cop-out with “I'm busy doing my job, which isn't blogging”, and ‘we-don't-need-no-stinkin'-content-we-are-free-range-writers’. In case you haven’t figured out by now, content is a hook, endless conversations can be noise.

No need for “choirs of voices raised in righteous rage against political enemies?” Oh yeah, well what about Trent Lott and the Dean run-up? Talk about righteous rage. And what about Linux vs. Microsoft or IE vs. Firefox? Righteous rage with extra-helpings piled on there. And what about corporations that only communicate via flacks and do not engage in a “human voice conversation”? You wrote a whole BOOK in righteous rage language against such corporate political enemies. And I thought the Cluetrain mantra was that “choirs of voices” matter over a single voice. Recall this one? “We want you to take 50 million of us as seriously as you take one reporter from The Wall Street Journal.”

I am not playing the political cards here, just I find it rather interesting, that the first real bite for blogs, and the “Old Guard” is nowhere to be found. Birds of a feather, blog together. Peace, Love and Understanding and a new World of Overhyped Blog Power, but only if you think like us, share the same political views and use same software and follow our commonly accepted conventions and blogroll link-whore to us; any other issue, matters little -- group-think at work. Anyone on a differing page is a “troll” or part of some vast hidden-conspiracy, Microsoft, Public Relations professionals, Right-Wing'ers, Corporate interests, or whatever the bogeyman of the moment is. Truly amazing, all over in formerly skeptical journalism circles, it’s a new day, blogs mean something -- and none of the ‘self-appointed’ or ‘Cluetrainers’ are rising to the challenge. Irony abounds.

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