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Re: Riding the clue train...
See what I mean about the DG? If you open it up, you get whiners like this. Does he say anything that isn't a complaint? This is the dark side of the Internet, it's a free-range for people with pain.
FWIW, JRA's post came across to me as a series of suggestions posed in somewhat negative terms (e.g. "a touch elitist"). Not as complaints. But you're right: they are complaints as well as suggestions.
Labeling JRA as a person "with pain," however, escalates matters by making them personal. This yields responses like JRA's next post, where he says "I'd be happy to invite Lauren Weinstein, of the Privacy Forum, and Peter Neumann, of RISKS, to comment on my reply, if you'd like." I guess he's asking you to step outside. Whatever, he's lost me here. I have no idea what he's talking about. Suddenly we're among stuff that belongs in email and therefore helps make your case against discussion groups.
The bottom line for me is that negative shit in discussion groups degenerates into flame wars, which become very, very time-consuming.
Like: here I am, consuming time. And reminding myself that I've gotta get back to the last Comdex piece.
Peace, gentlemen.
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