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Doc Searls - Friday, January 17, 2003  blueArrow
1/17/2003; 6:01:44 AM (reads: 7718, responses: 4)
Toward a blog cosmology 
 Interesting to look at the Technorati cosmoses (cosmi?) for Arnold, Mitch and myself at this moment in time. A lot of the current inbound links point to our 3-way blogversation around Eldred and Creative Commons.
 In the interest of equal space (call it affirmative distraction), here are some bonus links from several who sided with the majority of Supremes on Eldred matter: Richard Bennett, Jeff Jarvis and Misanthropyst. And backthanks to Richard (whose cosmos is here) for pointing to the other two.
 
Not any more 
 Bill Gates' Secret Blog.
 
Because Rome wasn't wrecked in a day 
 My latest Suitwatch is up. It's about Eldred, among other things.
 
What it isn't 
 Derek Miller shows how much things have remained the same (as they were 5 years ago) in the presentations game.
 
Two more ink guys, flinging pixels 
 Regardless of where you stand on what the gentlemen are saying, ya gotta admit that Lileks outwrites LeCarré.
 
Commons assumptions 
 In one corner, Arnold Kling:
 Creative Commons is based on a naive ideology that believes that raw content is gold, which then gets stolen by the evil media companies. In reality, the economics of content are that most of the value-added comes from the filtering process, not the creation process. If you want to overthrow incumbent publishers with Internet-based alternatives, you are better off starting from the assumption that Content is Crap
 In the other, Mitch Ratcliffe:
 In reality, the Creative Commons is a progressive technical solution to a simple problem that content creators have had in the face of a publishing/distribution industry unable to expand as rapidly as the creative media available to individuals: it lets the content creator express the preferences relating to how content may be used in machine-readable formats so that those preferences can be enforced later. In an age when it is impractical to send a copy of everything to the Copyright Office in order to gain protection of one's creative work, the Creative Commons is a simple solution to stating what rights we creators claim in our work. And it leads to a content marketplace in which people can sample intelligently and purchase exactly what they want.
 Earlier in his piece, Arnold says this:
 While there are many Net-heads who share Dan Gillmor's enthusiasm for Creative Commons, I do not. It has little or no significance, because it is based on a strikingly naive 60's-retro ideological view of how content intermediaries function. The Commons enthusiasts believe that content publishers earn their profits by using copyright law to steal content from its creators and charge extortionary prices to consumers.
 Let's look a little more closely at some assumptions here. Do Larry Lessig and the crew at Creative Commons really believe that — or, more to the point, do they believe only that?
 All the Commons entusiasts I know believe content creators haven't had enough choice about how their work might be used and re-used; and that intermediators haven't had much choice, either. Creative Commons addresses the market's need for choice, for both supply and demand — for first sources and final customers. We can complicate this purpose with politics, but we don't need to. Creative Commons was created by and for the marketplace. It will stand or fall for the plainest possible reasons.
 Arnold continues:
 In contrast, I believe that it is important to recognize that publishers perform a valid economic function of filtering content and effectively distributing and selling it to consumers. Today's media companies deserve plenty of contempt, as I have argued many times - see here or here or here . However, although we can get along without today's publishers, we cannot get along without the function that they perform.
 I don't think most folks around Creative Commons would disagree with that. Some, like me, don't like the term "consumers," because we think it's a shitty way of saying "customers," but still, it's a generally agreeable statement. The problem here is with Arnold's assumptions about Creative Commons' purposes, which seem no less narrow than the assumptions about publishers Arnold claims to be held by Creative Commons' enthusiasts.
 Simply put, Creative Commons' mission is to enrich the public domain. It may be naive to believe that either the supply or the demand sides of the content marketplace gives much of a shit about the public domain (yet); but it's not naive to observe that a fallow public domain may be exactly why both the supply and the demand sides of that marketplace are not especially happy with the way incumbent intermediaries have responded to new conditions there.
 Yes, there has been much snot flung in the general direction of the old content companies, whose responses to the presence of the Internet in their lives has generally ranged from hostile to clueless. But Creative Commons isn't about snot-flinging. Its purposes are constructive. If it succeeds, it will enlarge the content business by including a public domain that's well-stocked with useful stuff made even more useful by uncomplicated licensing. What's wrong with that?
 I say let's give it every chance we can.
 [Later...] Nice response from Arnold on Corante, in which he issues this challenge to myself and other Commonists (a label that make me wince because I wish I'd thought of it):
 Can you use CC to bring more academic research into the public domain?
 The short answer should be yes, but it's a lot more complicated than that, for reasons Arnold explains:
 I keep getting hung up on the fact that right now the journals and the NBER have leverage not because of copyright but because they have prestige. No economist can afford to blow off those intermediaries as outlets for his or her research. Doing so would be suicidal. So if you gave researchers a tool to label their work with a CC license that is contrary to the terms and conditions of the incumbent intermediaries, it would not be in their interest to use it.
 He says more. Go read it.
 More responses (to Eldred) here and here and here. Also more backblog here.
 
Blog bigger 
 Timothy Jarrett has been measuring the diameter of the blogosphere, and says it's growing at about 2.8 blogs/day.
 What's more, he's also making his source data available under an Attrubution-ShareAlike Creative Commons license.
 
It's more threaded than it appears 
 A couple days ago I posted an item by Ivan Hoffman, an intellectual property attorney who found cause for joy in the Supreme Court's decision on Eldred. While some thought I was being a bit unfair to the dude, others were just as creeped out as I was.
 Well, it turns out the latter group includes The Head Lemur, who has had his run-ins with Hoffman in the past. Notably here, here, and here.
 By the way, The Head Lemur says he's resolved to convert his news site to a blogging system, using Radio. That'll be great. We've needed a real blog out of THL for a long time.
 
Free(beer) speech 
 I was walking around a Staples store yesterday afternoon, talking with David Sifry on the cell phone about what a shitty market there is for freelance journalism. It's a topic Paul Boutin brought up in a recent conversation, and which has been echoed by other journalistic Ronin I know. David and I were wondering out loud about the role of blogs in this development when a line popped into my head: Blogs are commodifying journalism.
 By blogging for free, I wondered, am I undercutting the market for my own work?
 Not yet, anyway.
 If this is an insight (and I'm not sure it is), it's not an actionable one. The market is clearly still there.
 As Tom Matrullo points out, Francisco Toro isn't so lucky. He recently decided he'd rather blog Caracas Chronicles, fighting for his causes and reporting with honesty and passion, than write in the voice of a detached observer as a stringer for the New York Times.
 Meanwhile, as if to illustrate how complicated this all is, Sheila Lennon, another blogging professional journalist, continues to offer corrective reporting about what some are calling "The Lennon Incident."
 The beat goes on. And sometimes off.
 [Later...] Somewhere in that same vein, Gary Farber more than makes up for getting his quote on Glenn Reynolds snipped from this piece in the NY Times.

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James Fairbairn - Re: Friday, January 17, 2003  blueArrow
1/17/2003; 9:51:58 AM (reads: 635, responses: 0)
Re. Derek Miller's presentations-in-HTML -- it's not All The Same; WimpyPoint has been around for a good while now. (http://aure.com/doc/wp)

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Shelley - Re: Commons Assumptions  blueArrow
1/17/2003; 4:20:44 PM (reads: 674, responses: 1)
Good coverage of different viewpoints. And the differing viewpoints are nicely expressed.

My concern with the Creative Commons is first and foremost, I don't think people understands how it works exactly and what it means that you grant this license to anyone for any purpose (other than commercial or not), and can't revoke the license once used by another. I think that it asks the creators to become too involved in law, and how CCLs differ from copyright and differ from Fair Use. I think there needs to be more education, and a little less 'rah rah' associated with it.

I am also concerned about this growing push on the part of some that artists such as writers -- people like you and me, Doc -- have an obligation to put their works into the public domain after the 'commons' deems that they have made sufficient compensation from said works. This is no more true than to demand that other professions donate their salaries above and beyond living expenses to charity. Tyranny of the commons, indeed.

Balanced perspective is needed about now.

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Timothy Phillips - Re: Commons Assumptions  blueArrow
1/17/2003; 8:08:13 PM (reads: 1277, responses: 0)
burningbird wrote: "I am also concerned about this growing push on the part of some that artists such as writers -- people like you and me, Doc -- have an obligation to put their works into the public domain after the 'commons' deems that they have made sufficient compensation from said works. This is no more true than to demand that other professions donate their salaries above and beyond living expenses to charity."

Assuming for the sake of argument that this "growing push" exists and has the characteristics burningbird ascribes to it, I have the following observations:

A professional's salary is his absolutely. An author's copyright is his only for reasons of public policy: to promote the progress of science. To equate the two is not necessarily logical.

That is a side issue, though. The main issue is this: In theory the public, through its representatives, grants copyrights to authors by means of the law. But what happens if the law is corrupt ? if the law is no longer created for a public purpose, but to enrich the friends of politicians ? Then some exercises of one's legal rights, while formally legal, might carry the taint of corruption. It is not less reasonable for ethicists to ask authors to consider the political and social realities behind the rights that have been granted to them and, possibly, to modify their behavior accordingly, than for the same hypothetical ethicists to ask our hypothetical professionals to reflect on, and respond to, how their way of life influences the air, the water, or the balance of species.

I agree with burningbird this far: to try to create an atmosphere of obligation on all authors to renounce all income from their copyrights after a certain amount has been received is unreasonable. It amounts to saying that authors who respond to the questions raised by the ethicists must respond in only one way. A reasonable respect for independence of conscience creates an expectation that responses to these concerns will be varied. And as a practical matter I think we would have better luck simply getting the statutory copyright term reduced than trying to create a social climate in which all authors acted as if the term were 20 years shorter.

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Fred Grott - Problems with A King  blueArrow
1/17/2003; 9:18:57 PM (reads: 686, responses: 0)
My problems with his posting is that he attempts to lump different grousp with very different functions, motives, and economic realites into one group..

Lets start with an example Scientific Publishers are not in the same market as regular publishers.. Their motives are different, their customer are different, and their mission objectives are different.

Then he ignores the fact that publishers are own by media companies! Media companies also perform an economic function of filter and distributing content..what is the difference here? We despise one while praise the other, bu tthey have the saem economic model!

Wolfram's book is an example of blowing off publishers to get stuff out and I am sure more wil occur..

A King has alot of missconceptions and misunderstandings..hoopefully he will physically go visit his favorite publisher or media company to get some real understanding..

A King is wonrg that there is not a CC license that is in the incumbent intermediaries interest..did he even read all the licensees yet?

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