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started 6/13/2002; 7:20:36 AM - last post 6/13/2002; 9:19:05 PM
Doc Searls - Thursday, June 13, 2002  blueArrow
6/13/2002; 11:20:36 AM (reads: 6399, responses: 2)
Distraction span 

Here's Jonathon Mays on what Hollywood really sells. Here's the source.

We're here to serve 

Customer Service: a Radio Weblog, is Dan Gillmor's personal blog. I am remiss for not pointing this out earlier. Dan hasn't posted on it for awhile, but it shows up better than some better-known blogs in my referer logs.

Moss coverage 

Ed Cone reports on the apparent suicide of Rolling Stone: there would still be feature articles, just that they would be shorter and better illustrated.

Sez Hunter S. Thompson, "It seems as if he's in dire straits. Has it really come to that?"

Blournalism, cont'd. 

Dave has some great advice to newspapers about making good AND-logic use of weblogs. Glenn Reynolds and Mickey Kaus approve (Kaus with some qualifications). Dave follows up, sourcing "Doc's philosophy that says there is no demand for messages, which is why advertising is such a 20th Century concept."

Dave doesn't point to a particular post, so I'll add a few here. One is a kind of guest editorial on Dave Strom's Web Informant. It's from 1998. Interesting to see how far things have (and haven't) come since then.

Another is An Open Letter to Meg Whitman on the occasion of eBay's decision (unwise in my opinion) to engage AOL to subtract value from eBay pages by selling adverting on them.

And another is Cluetrain requires conversation, which includes one of my favorite lines: sales is real, marketing is bullshit.

Blogroll of the day 

... goes to Cut on the bias. Not just because Susanna passes a few kind words in my direction, but because she does an A-1 job of calling bullshit on all kinds of media (and other forms of) BS.

Another good'n: Black Belt Jones.

Jabbering on 

I'm sitting in a session by Dave "Dizzy" Smith at JabberConf. He's talking about XML-RPC, SOAP and how Jabber works (and can do much more) with both. I'm very interested but also extremely sleepy. Jeremie just got in today and hasn't slept in 30 hours. I ran into him on the elevator a few minutes ago heading up to his room for a few minutes of catch-up.

Peter Saint-Andre is here, awake, and a couple rows in front of me. He and Diz were both terrific audience members during my keynote this morning, which went quite well. I'll put it up on the Web soon. (Here's Peter's blog. He's a deep guy. Here's a collection of his essays, from back in 1996. Also some excellent poems.)

Now Diz is talking about "Jabber Service," which "leverages XML-based RPC to create flexible, presence-enabled distributed applications.

Okay, that completes the test. Are any non-technical readers still with us here?

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Jonathon - Re: Thursday, June 13, 2002  blueArrow
6/13/2002; 4:07:10 PM (reads: 543, responses: 1)
Doc- Dunno if this of interest, but...A dude from the director's guild in hollywood spewed to me about what Hollywood REALLY sells..

I would like your take on it. Anyone's for that matter.

http://www.stretchingthought.com/2002/06/13#a140

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Albert Freeman - Re: Thursday, June 13, 2002  blueArrow
6/14/2002; 1:19:05 AM (reads: 691, responses: 0)
Well, it's a nice take on what actually the entertainment industry's real purpose is. It does raise the question: how much of the loss is due to the audience just not being interested anymore?

I mean, we're not seeing anything terribly original in movies or music anymore. Most of the attention span that he talks about selling is directed toward boring and plebeian crap that we've already seen and heard.

Was it like this for our parents and grandparents as well?

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