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Doc Searls - Wednesday, November 7, 2001  blueArrow
11/7/2001; 2:36:06 AM (reads: 5599, responses: 8)
But he didn't threaten them with an Iceberg Award 
 Eric Norlin is a devout Denver Nuggets fan who is not happy camping with shitty seats, so he is letting the owner, Stan Kroenke, know — by means of an open letter he's also sending to the two big Denver papers and to the greater blogging community. I'm just doing my part as a fading Golden State Warriors fan. They suck too.
 Unrelated: I used to know Carl Sheer, who for awhile owned (or partly owned) the Nuggets. And the team's first public affairs director, Ted Malik, was a friend of mine who tragically passed away while he was still a bright young guy doing that very job.
 Carl got his big break in the basketball business when he was still doing dplay-by-play for tiny Guilford College, over WCOG radio in Greensboro, North Carolina. Guilford was privileged to have a bruiser named Bob "Horse" Kauffman playing for the basketball team. Bob led the team to the NAIA national finals more than once and ended up being the third pick in the NBA draft. Bob retained Carl, an attorney, as his agent. Carl got a great deal for Bob, more clients, and involvement in the business. I think he was tied up with the Charlotte Hornets too. Not sure.
 I got to know Carl when he called football games and I ran the scoreboard (and believe me, I'm the last guy you want with a detail-oriented job like that). Never stayed in touch, though.
 Kauffman ended up being a several-time NBA all-star in the early 70's. He peaked with the Buffalo Braves, the hapless franchise that now calls itself the Los Angeles Clippers.
 Here's a Braves retro page with player cards that feature not only Bob Kauffman, but John Hummer, who later went on to the real big time as a venture capitalist (teamed with the diminutive Ann Winblad).
 By the way, some other Guilford basketball alumni who found their way to the NBA were M.L. Carr and World B. Free.
 
You too can help 
 Tune into the latest EGR and follow what Chris Locke is doing for a piece he's writing on blogs (here's his) for The Guardian. His angle:
 Actually, what interests me most about weblogs is (you should forgive the expression), memic propagation and amplification.
 This is evil genius stuff, and nobody is better at it than RageBoy. That's why we need to help. Our cause is at stake. If we do what the MemeMan says, all we despise will sumbit to death by blog (a form of productively Indecent Exposure). Or something like that. Trust me, it'll be good for blogs, the Web, the Milky Way, etc.
 Nice review of Gonzo Marketing here, by the way.
 
Get back in the ocean and eat some fish 
 I'm on the phone with Criag, chewing fat about the proposed Microsoft settlement, which appears to be how the Bush administration is dropping the case.
 Craig, who competed very effectively with Microsoft at Novell in the 80s, was looking for a good metaphor — not just for this case, but for the motivation behind it, and for the motivations behind every collossally failed effort to bring Microsoft down, including Ray Noorda's at Novell after Craig left the company (and Novell bought every company and technology it could — Wordperfect, AT&T's UNIX... — to compete head-to-head with The Beast From Redmond), Lotus under Jim Manzi, even Netscape under Jims Clark and Barksdale, when the company seemed to think the browser was some kind of platform that could take Windows head-on.
 "They were all Ahabs," I said.
 "And they all went after the Big White Dick," Craig replied.
 "The giant sperm whale."
 "They had to bring it down. At all costs."
 "Instead of running companies, they were thumping around the decks of their boats..."
 "Even the Federal Case, which started as Gary Reback's. He was the Fed's Ahab. He hijacked their ship and went after the whale."
 Okay, maybe that's extreme. But this line of Craig's rings extra true for me:
 What we need are better whales, and a lot more of them.
 The ocean is the marketplace. It's a huge ecosystem, not just one food chain. Let's deal with that. To quote Craig one more time, Grow some blubber.
 
Wanted: OS X feedfront 
 From now to Monday, Job One is (along with the rest of next February's issue) is a review of OS X for Linux Journal. Right now I'm looking for answers to a few specific questions. Any help ya'll can give would be much appreciated. Here they are:
 
  1. What, specifically, have independent programmers contributed to Darwin (OS X's BSD-based kernel)? Pointers to (or reports of) actual code would be helpful.
  2. To what extent is work on Darwin contributing back to the BSD communitiy?
  3. What Mac programs work or don't work under OS 9 emulation in OS X? I'm looking here for programs that don't require you to restart your computer and run it natively under OS 9. And how much of an issue is that? (It's a lot for me.)
  4. Exactly how many people weighed in with recommendations for improvements to OS X? Apple published something about this around the time of Macworld last January, but I can't find anything right now. I think the number then was 70,000, but I'd like facts, or pointers to facts.
  5. Does OS X give us UNIX on the desktop? It does for me, but is it a credible claim to the UNIX community?
  6. Should Apple now be showing up at UNIX trade shows, giving talks, demonstrating Darwin and its applications (Apple and otherwise) and behaving roughly as the inheritor of the role NeXT played in that community? I strongly believe they should, but I'd like your opinions as well.
  7. What are some examples of OS X upsuck (I love that term so much better than 'adoption') into business as well as education and science?
  8. Given UNIX-grade reliability, ease of administration and interop with other platforms (UNIX), plus the ability to run the Microsoft Office Suite (and exchange files with Windows) does OS X finally make Apple a factor in the enterprise?
 I could go on here, but I need to work on the project. Anything quotable you could feed me would be welcome. Remember that the editorial frame of reference is still Linux — specifically a Linux how-to publication.
 
Geeks at liesure 
 A bunch of pix I took on the Geek Cruise are up at Linux Journal's site. BTW, turns out Andre was out cruising around the same time, only in a real sailboat, not a hotel with a hull.
 
Hack arrives 
 The Grapevine Project:
 Once there was a peer-to-peer file-sharing network called Napster. People happily shared music files in flagrant violation of copyright laws. Unfortunately Napster had a fatal weakness: It could be shut down.
 Grapevine isn't software yet. It's a spec. But it's the first I've read in awhile that makes me wish I were a programmer.
 Thanks to David Scott Williams for the link.
 
Blogs? They're what get you interviewed about blogs. 
 Here's J.D., talking to the Sacrmento Bee about how blogs feed on each other. From me J.D. says he gets "commentary on current events." (I tend not to think that's all I do, but it seems I just did one.) Keep Trying finds me (also Dave and three others) "consistently interesting and thought provoking." And here's Massless, calling me "just perfectly sane and thoughtful." I dunno. Years ago when I was asked, "Who is the sanest person you know," I answered "My mother." I didn't even think about it. Mom is 88 now, and still sane as they come. When I ask her about current events, she dismisses the question and says "Come visit. It's been too long."
 
Hot air 
 CNN CNN America Strikes Back headlineand the other U.S. TV networks are all telling the same story, with exactly the same title — the sequel to America Under Siege. Note the word "strike." By itself it tells of revenge, retaliation. Also of air. Mostly we're waging air strikes against the Taliban in Afghanistan. Would we be using the same verb if most of the action was on the ground? Just wondering.
 You get a different story from less domestic (and domesticated) media. Take Tehelka, which appears to be a no-BS Indian news site (here's its masthead.). In an interview with Tehelka, a retired general says this: The war will start only after they start deploying ground troops. All this while, America has concentrated on air raids and missile drops from the air. They might not send their own troops to fight a ground war though, and use some of their coalition partners or even the warriors of the Northern Alliance. For the moment, I think, the Americans are just trying to scare the Taliban. And as you can see for yourself, it is just not working. The mistake the US made was to misjudge the Afghan character. They thought they could scare the Afghans with all their expensive weaponry. But the Afghans are tough as nails, and cannot be scared. You can go on killing these Afghan Pashtuns, but they will not bend till they are all killed. This is a story we don't want to tell, and don't want to be told. The title of that story will be "America fights back." No editor wants to run that story while "strike" still has box office.
 Meanwhile, what's really going on? I think Thomas Friedman nails one big issue (as he does so often) in Fighting bin Ladenism. What we're fighting is the result of many things, but none less than the ignorance and hate that characterize the worst of religion and tribalism.
 What is terrorism, anyway? Here's what the linguist and dissent artist Noam Chomsky says, quoting a U.S. Army manual: the calculated use of violence or threat of violence to attain goals that are political, religious, or ideological in nature. This is done through intimidation, coercion, or instilling fear. But what's terrorism's opposite? Is it involved here? What's it fighting? Or does it fight at all?
 Just wondering.
 
More like a one-man Renaissance 
 PopMatters describes Rob Breszny as...the essence of the contemporary Renaissance Man. He's a big-time astrologer, a small-time rock star, and now a novelist of post-patriarchal idealism. He also moonlights as a quasi-pagan trickster god, and as a communal husband. Given that only a small fraction of the population actually believes in the veracity of these ideas and vocations, it's likely that Brezsny will seem like a kook. In reality, Brezsny is merely holding his own place next to other cultural shamans such as Robert Anton Wilson, Timothy Leary, Reverend Ivan Stang, William S. Burroughs, and Ken Kesey.
 Rob, about whom I wrote a little bit recently, is out with both a new book and a new album, The Televisionary Oracle and Give too much, respectively.
 More stories about (and by — sometimes it's hard to tell the difference, not that it matters) Rob are here.

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Alwin Hawkins - Re: Tuesday, November 7, 2001  blueArrow
11/7/2001; 2:10:30 PM (reads: 689, responses: 1)
There are a ton of bad/false assumptions that Maj. General Kareem makes. I'll highlight one out of the pullquote.

For the moment, I think, the Americans are just trying to scare the Taliban.

Nonsense, of course. The statement is disingenuous, and the strategy easily discerned from openly accessible US doctrines. The bombing/missle attacks first took out anti-air assets, then moved to their present stage of fixing the enemy in position by destroying their mobile fighting capacity (tanks, trucks, personnel carriers, etc) and forcing them into bunkered positions.

Once fixed in position, you have a lot of choices in how you want to deal with them. There was much press given over the last few days to the "daisy cutter" or FAE bomb that could be dropped into cave mouths to destroy fortified positions. But that's just one option; once you've got them "stuck in the bunkers" without transport, you can wait for them to get hungry or run out of ammo.

Old military aphorism: "Amateurs think about strategy, professionals think about logistics." There are a lot of journalists thinking like amateurs.

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Doc Searls - Re: Tuesday, November 7, 2001  blueArrow
11/7/2001; 3:31:26 PM (reads: 751, responses: 0)
I agree about General Kareem. I just wanted to point to a story other than the one CNN, et. al. have been telling.

And I've been looking for that last line. Good one.

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Dori Smith - Re: Tuesday, November 7, 2001  blueArrow
11/7/2001; 6:06:40 PM (reads: 2448, responses: 4)
Should Apple now be showing up at UNIX trade shows, giving talks, demonstrating Darwin and its applications (Apple and otherwise) and behaving roughly as the inheritor of the role NeXT played in that community? I strongly believe they should, but I'd like your opinions as well.

Not just yes, but hell yes.

I don't have the hard numbers to back this up, but my understanding is that Apple has shipped more UNIX seats with OS X than anyone has before. Combined. In total.

That ought to get them a seat at the table and a little bit of respect. The Linux folks have been trying to push UNIX for users (not geeks and/or servers) for years, and (imo) failed dismally. Apple hasn't succeeded yet, but they're on the right path.

OS X's two biggest bottlenecks to real adoption are Photoshop and Retrospect. When those two ship, that's when serious upgrades will happen.

Dori
Backup Brain

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Barry Cohen - Re: Tuesday, November 7, 2001  blueArrow
11/8/2001; 10:26:34 AM (reads: 1404, responses: 3)
I want to expand upon Dori's reply. Doc asks whether OS X is makes Apple a viable enterprise computing contender. I believe it can, especially in those businesses that have strong UNIX based infrastructures or run lots of UNIX applications.

Add Microsoft Office to this mix and you have, as implied, a very viable corporate desktop alternative to W2K or WXP. But, Apple still has a problem in the enterprise; hardware. There are two issues here. Paucity of models suitable for office desktops (meaning Macs are too cool for most companies) and single source. With no one else making computers that run OS X, many companies are uncomfortable buying.

The single source issue also leads to questions of performance, which are often the main driver in UNIX workstation purchases. Large workstation orders often hinge upon a few benchmark advantages, with whole installations being switched to different vendors if a competing brand is faster or offers some other performance benefit. Apple has a long way to go to compete in the performance arena, their marketing aside.

Perhaps, as so many have suggested in the past, a future version of OS X for Intel, perhaps Itanium or a successor chip, would resolve this issue. OTOH, Jobs is no fool. If significant numbers of OS X Macs start backdooring into enterprises, there would be business Macs within six months.

Barry Cohen Progressive Strategies

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Amy Wohl - Re: Tuesday, November 7, 2001  blueArrow
11/8/2001; 10:55:25 AM (reads: 1448, responses: 2)
Apple has tried to be an Enterprise Vendor on several previous occasions and failed because they don't understand what is expected of an Enterprise Vendor. Technology's nice, but that's not what makes a successful Enterprise Vendor. Service, support, and customer relationships are what count. I've seen no indication that Apple has changed its attitude about any of that.

Maybe they could find a partner to be their Enterprise Supplier Partner?

I do remember in one of the previous unsuccessful rounds, one of their big (and very unhappy) enterprise customers saying "We do business with Apple in spite of them."

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Doc Searls - Re: Tuesday, November 7, 2001  blueArrow
11/8/2001; 1:35:10 PM (reads: 1168, responses: 0)
Several thoughts come to mind here.

First, Apple service and support is infinitely better than it was when Steve Jobs arrived, even though he immediately shut off the 1-800-APPL free support line, pissing off a lot of people (me included) in a big way. But credit where due: when I call for service now I get somebody almost immediately, and help is always patient and useful. There's plenty of evidence (e.g. Consumer Report's recent survey of PC vendor support) that Apple is now doing a good job there.

And let's not forget that they're making computing easy and fun again with some outstanding hardware. I don't want to discount that.

But that's individual stuff. At the enterprise level, you're right: it's not there. When Apple looks in the enterprise direction it sees many, many burned bridges and a Microsoft Empire on par with Rome under Augustus Caesar. It also that doesn't appear to interest their CEO much anyway. And who knows what unspoken agreements exist between Bill and Steve, quite aside from Microsoft's huge holdings in Apple, whose legitimacy rests rather largely on a steady series of Microsoft Office upgrades?

Steve Jobs is in the first rank of both technology innovation and consumer marketing. Even that may be an understatement. He's profoundly original, and wickedly smart. What he's done with Apple, from product choice through design, branding, retailing, merchandising and even service (through the "genius bars" at Apple's stores) has served to reposition Apple as a premier consumer electronics player. We're only seeing the beginning of it. Your Mac will be the "hub of your digital lifestyle" Steve said at Macworld last January. SKU by SKU, you'll see Apple get back into the peripherals business. Maybe not in printers (where they once had a fabulous position under Terry Bailey but wouldn't let the profitable division operate independently), but certainly in MP3 players, DVD players, and other devices that flank what Sony is doing, rather than taking that giant head-on (in, say, Camcorders).

Consumer electronics is far from the enterprise, where desktop hardware margins are molecule-thin.

So you're right. Relationships are the only way in. The question is, with whom?

Sun would make sense. There we'd have a couple of high-margin, high-style players working together. Oracle would make more sense at a personal level for Steve and Larry, who serves on Apple's board, as I recall.

I think the biggest problem for Apple in the enterprise is hardware. Its gear isn't, as they say, "compatible." Sure, Macs can get along in the enterprise, in the sense that anything that lives on the Net is compatible. But too much of the enterprise computing conversation is about what can only be done on Microsoft OSes and X86 iron. This is Linux' problem to a lesser degree; but Linux runs on X86 iron and is too easy for geeks to sneak in, set up and put to use without showing up on the corporate radar. Apple's stuff won't get past security unless it arrives in the laptop bags of outside contractors or high-clout employees.

Another partner that might make sense is AOL, or perhaps AOL in cahoots with Sun. That's because AOL/Time Warner through its publishing empire is already a huge Apple customer. And affinities between AOL and Apple go back a very long way. AOL is also big in Entertainment, where Steve Jobs is perhaps the most expert executive around. (At Pixar he has driven Godfather-grade deals with Disney — and he's still going strong there.)

But I think other parties will need to take the initiative here.

Meanwhile millions of new Apple desktops are trojan horses for UNIX. To the extent these boxes find their way into enterprises, Apple at least achieves a secondary significance.

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Doc Searls - Re: Tuesday, November 7, 2001  blueArrow
11/8/2001; 1:46:04 PM (reads: 1676, responses: 0)
A bunch of thoughts come to mind here.

First, Apple service and support is infinitely better than it was when Steve Jobs arrived, even though he immediately shut off the 1-800-APPL free support line, pissing off a lot of people (me included) in a big way. But credit where due: when I call for service now I get somebody almost immediately, and help is always patient and useful. There's plenty of evidence (e.g. Consumer Report's recent survey of PC vendor support) that Apple is now doing a good job there.

And let's not forget that they're making computing easy and fun again with some outstanding hardware. I don't want to discount that.

But that's individual stuff. At the enterprise level, you're right: it's not there. When Apple looks in the enterprise direction it sees many, many burned bridges and a Microsoft Empire on par with Rome under Augustus Caesar. The enterprise also doesn't appear to interest Steve much anyway. And who knows what unspoken agreements exist between Steve and Bill, quite aside from Microsoft's huge holdings in Apple, whose legitimacy rests rather largely on a steady series of Microsoft Office upgrades?

Steve Jobs is a peerless technology innovator and consumer marketer of the first rank. He's profoundly original, wickedly smart and an unusually tough businessman. What he's done with Apple, from product choice through design, branding, retailing, merchandising and even service (through the "genius bars" at Apple's stores) has served to reposition Apple as a premier consumer electronics player. We're only seeing the beginning of it. Your Mac will be the "hub of your digital lifestyle" Steve said at Macworld last January. SKU by SKU, you'll see Apple get back into the peripherals business. Maybe not in printers (where they once had a fabulous position under Terry Bailey but wouldn't let the profitable division operate independently), but certainly in MP3 players, DVD players, and other devices that attach to PCs and flank what Sony is doing, rather than taking that giant head-on (in, say, Camcorders).

But consumer electronics is far from the enterprise, where desktop hardware margins are molecule-thin, thanks to the very cloning business that in retrospect Steve was wise to have dumped when he returned to Apple in 1997.

So you're right. Relationships are the only way Apple gets into the Enterprise in a big way. The question is, with whom?

Sun would make sense. There we'd have a couple of high-margin, high-style players working together. Oracle would make more sense at a personal level for Steve and Larry, who are old friends.

I think the biggest problem for Apple in the enterprise is hardware. Its gear isn't, as they say, "compatible." Sure, Macs can get along in the enterprise, in the sense that anything that lives on the Net is compatible with everything else on the Net. But too much of the enterprise computing conversation is about what can only be done on Microsoft OSes and X86 iron. This is Linux' problem to a lesser degree; but Linux runs on X86 iron and is too easy for geeks to sneak in, set up and put to use without showing up on the corporate radar. Apple's stuff won't get past security unless it arrives in the laptop bags of outside contractors or high-clout employees.

Another partner that might make sense is AOL, or perhaps AOL in cahoots with Sun. That's because AOL/Time Warner through its publishing empire is already a huge Apple customer. And affinities between AOL and Apple go back a very long way. AOL is also big in Entertainment, where Steve Jobs is perhaps the most expert executive around. (At Pixar he has driven Godfather-grade deals with Disney — and he's still going strong there.)

But I think other parties will need to take the initiative here.

Meanwhile millions of new Apple desktops are trojan horses for UNIX. To the extent these boxes find their way into enterprises, Apple at least achieves a secondary significance.

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Dwight - Re: Wednesday, November 7, 2001  blueArrow
11/9/2001; 11:27:29 PM (reads: 677, responses: 0)
"Should Apple now be showing up at UNIX trade shows, giving talks, demonstrating Darwin and its applications (Apple and otherwise) and behaving roughly as the inheritor of the role NeXT played in that community? I strongly believe they should, but I'd like your opinions as well."

My opinion is that since this is, essentially, Unix on the Mac hardware, I think that either MacWorld should be renamed or merged with a big Unix show(presumably and preferrably LinuxWorld) as Mac is no longer Mac centered, and is now BSD/Unix centered. This will never happen, mind you, as the Mac community would die if they had to share their top trade show with the Unix geeks.

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